Ancient civilisation of KUTCh and its relation to all ancient civilisation all over the world‏ Genetic evidences Haplogroup H Y-DNA and Haplogroup M mtDNA‏


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Dear EDITORIALS, MEDCOs, Friends of the Science, History, ARCHEO – Anthropology and GEO-Archeology, 
When ever evolution of life and human evolution comes in disscussion dispute always comes forward. and when it comes to explanations in Purans is goes only to beliefs and mythology. But is that all? NO Genetic science comes in favour to solve all those questions.
CIVILISATION started in river basin areas of saraswati and INDUS and spread to middle east , Europe and than across the atlantic to Mexico and southern america – Peru and Andis, BUt how they cross the ATLANTIC. about 10000 years ago english chennel was frozen to ice so gypsis (original Indian origin as they believe themselves of INDIAN origin – SEE GENETIC DNA reports bootom of this email) crossed to british land, worshiped at STONEHENGE, worshiping SUN (suryavanshi), to cross an ATLANTIC ocean they go further north to SCANDINAVIA (so finis – scandinavian has similar GENETIC DNA similarity with Indian origin and differes from rest of Scandinavian tribes and rest of europeans too) to cross to CANADIAN part and then south to MEXICO and to PERU and ANDIS regions. (Mexican Maya civilisations authentic book we have gives information as people of Indian – asian origin came from across Europe to Maxico caves and stayed there in caves some 20000 yeras back – similar evidense found MARUDA TAKKAR an oldest port of  the world in the middle of present SALT RANN and lake of INDUS SARASWATI at the time 20000 years ago)
SIMILARLY origin of life started on earth some 2Bn years ago. as science says also proves by Vedis scienec and vedic maths calculations. vedic calculative file is aatched to email as an attachemnt of MAHAYUGA.XLS
According to vedas AT AD 1999 FROM KALP START(ARAMBHA)TIME 1.99E+09 = 1990013100 match to scienec evedence of 2Bn years more accurately.
STROMATOLITES study of origin of life on Earth is studies in STROBOLITES of AUSTRALLIAN study of PERTH but not KUTCH STROMBOLITES in STROMATOLITES of BAY of KUTCH. at that time bothe parts were united together with african continent. (AFRICA – AUSTRALLIA And INDIAN continental plate and KUTCH) we have records and Pictuere of KUTCH fossils and stromatolites in our pictuer library records.
OUR SUN’S LIFE = 1 KALP DAY (4320000000 YEARS) + 1 KALP NIGHT (4320000000 YEARS) = 8640000000 yeas match to scienec evedence of 9Bn years more accurately
Origin of river is the oldest source of river water. if water in the river Origin dries rest of the river also dries along the path. e.g. JAMNOTRI / GANGOTRI etc.  Even if the river dries at the distant end the underground water flows if the origin of the river has the water source. 

e.g. Gaggar Hakara of Saraswati river basin. If distant end of river water becomes scarce or dries up the river bed at distant end of the river, the civilisation dependent on water of the river will have to move upstream of the river for the source of water.  

Civilisations Move upstream to wards the origin of river for water as time passed and as water become scarcely at distant end of the river.
Civilisation on the river banks of the river SARASWATI and civilisations in the Kutch moved upstream to the riverbed where water source was available. Similarly to the river basin of the Indus as river Indus and river Saraswati has common mouth in the present RANN of the KUTCH when it was in the form of the lake.

Also people of the civilisation moved to the other region linked with water and the sea. To the Middle east and Mesopotamia, (See Dholavira film) map available on request also Indus Decoding is available for reference in reference library.


Recently No one Visited MARUDA TAKKAR since the area is under the border safety control, but 15000 years older than that of Dholavira and pyramids!!  Ancient port – map available is the world’s oldest port in the RANN of the Kutch in India. Which suggest that,  MARUDA TAKKAR was the oldest origin of the civilisation in the world.

Awaiting for the research from the ASI research team work. They used typical boat to move all over the world by River water channels and Sea, as Dholavira, Indus, haraapan and Egyptian used. So we see similar Boat symbol, which is common in those civilisations. 


Civilisations Navigated by Ancient BOATS and astronomical Compass. So Boat symbol remained common for those civilisations, e.g. Kutch Saraswati civilisation, Egypt and Indus as well.  


Though western and Egyptian archaeological researchers hide many information regarding those facts or do not agree. Or manipulates the in formations. Include Egypt as well as the Egypt itself is suggestive, Egypt’s Original NAME was MUDRAYA.

MUDRAYA name itself suggestive what it means. If any doubts can be cleared with the Linguistic study. name from an  ancient Avestha/ Old Persian derived from SANSKRIT. Decoding of Egyptian and OLD PERSIAN AVESTAN languages are available for reference from the reference library. Including ATHARVAN ZARATHUSHTRA (also OLD Persian used atharveda -ATHARVAN ZARATHUSHTRA)


ALSO Egyptians worshiped Sun GOD (SURYA), Cows as mother of Gods (KAMDHENU), Snake (NAAG DEVA), Eagle – (GARUDA),  Kings Ramses and king dynasty of RAMESIS, Queen of the EGYPTIAN KING RAMESIS first  was SITARE ,


Queen Matare (MATA) from maternal queen dynasty.  Queen HATSHEPSUT = HAsT kSHEP SUT – has missing phonatic half letter which is not understood by non phonatic languages like arabic/ egyptian/latins

And also Symbolic language used in MUDRAYA – EGYPT is not equvelent to PHONATIC language. Queen HATSHEPSUT / HAsT kSHEP SUT it self suggestive that she was aginst King dynasty and she used the beard and become the Queen of the Egypt.

IT interptuted  (HAsT kSHEP =HATSHEP) the ruling by King dynasty.  and she was not the SUT (SON). Now the name of the queen itself becomes suggestive that Queen HATSHEPSUT = HAsT kSHEP SUT.

Ancient Languages SANSKRIT, Old PERSIAN language AVESTHA is similar to SANSKRIT and believed derived from Sanskrit. Decoding is available for the reference form the reference library for the ancient Avestha /Old Persian language which was derived from SANSKRIT.

Decoding of Egyptian and OLD PERSIAN AVESTAN languages are available for reference from the reference library. Including ATHARVAN ZARATHUSHTRA (also OLD Persian used Atharva veda -ATHARVAN ZARATHUSHTRA)


European Hippies /GIPO believe them selves as original Indian of origin, and also worship STONEHENGE as their worship place as they originated from India and bought Astronomical aspect

For the Investigation purpose a trench is underway since 1st April2008 for 2weeks investigations. And if truth is not covered up as usual then findings of ancient potteries and the writing and design will prove the fact.


ESKIMOES – believed to be originated from indian of the AMERICAN origin but now that truth has come out to be original ASIANS – not americans – proven with MATERNAL Mitochondrial genetic study.

Mitochondrial genetic DNA are the original source of Mother and transmitted from generations to generations from mothers . and Without mother generations do not go on. we can get paternal genes , DNA from any sourse but Mother is always required. that can not be changed.

Nothing will grow in space – One need the Mother first even in the space if wish to grow. even to germinate seed one has to take earthern material and water to the space to germinate any thing in the space.


Prehistoric Hair Suggests 1st Eskimos Came From Asia
National Geographic News May 29, 2008

paleo-eskimo hair and knife picture

A clump of frozen human hair from northwest Greenland suggests that the first Eskimos in the New World did not descend from Native Americans as previously thought but came directly from Asia, a new study says. Furthermore, these pioneer settlers of the far north later died out and did not give rise to the Inuit living in Greenland today.

The research is based on DNA analysis of ancient hair from a so-called Paleo-Eskimo, which was found preserved in permafrost soil in the Disco Bay area in the 1980s.

The hair, which belonged to a male who lived some 4,000 years ago, has provided the first ever complete mitochondrial genome for an ancient human, according to a team led by Tom Gilbert of the Center for Ancient Genetics at the University of Copenhagen, Denmark.

Mitochondrial DNA is passed down from mother to child and thus gives a genetic marker to an individual’s maternal ancestry.

In the ancient Greenland Eskimo’s case, his hair revealed that his people came from Siberia, the study found.

The Paleo-Eskimo’s genetic relatives survive today only in small pockets in north-eastern Siberia and the Aleutian Islands, which stretch across the Bering Sea from Alaska to Russia, Gilbert said. (See a map of the islands.)


Challenging Theories


Previously, there were two main theories to explain the ancestry of the first Eskimos in Alaska, Canada, and Greenland, Gilbert said.

The theories held that they either descended from Native Americans who colonized North America at least 14,350 years ago, or they came from the same source area in Siberia that gave rise to modern Eskimos, such as those who have lived in Greenland for the past 1,000 years.

‘Then there is a third idea that they were independent to both—and that’s what it turns out to be,’ Gilbert said.


The new research, which appears tomorrow in the journal Science, suggests that the original Paleo-Eskimos of the New World were replaced by later colonizers, who spread eastward from Siberia.  

Civilisation moved from Kutch MARUDA port to Middle East, to Mesopotamia and Egypt and to Europe, and  from Europe to American continent, Across Atlantic  MEXICO, Peru brazil Amazon etc.


People move from one area to other area but they carry on their farming and weaving techniques and so Egyptians do similar farming and cattle farming as well. Common thing for the civilisation in farming and weaving techniques carried with them where ever they go.

RED Indians / Egyptians all used similar techniques for farming and weaving as indo Sarasvati civilisation used.


Red Indians are original Indians and they carry on their farming techniques they brought with them since then. Including traditional flowers of MERRY GOLD flower used for every holy purpose And to the ancestors.

MAYA and Mayan books of Mexico suggest that Indian crossed the Atlantic from Europe and lived in Mexican caves before 20000 years ago. Decoding is available – books original information are available for reference form the reference library. Including MAYAN CODOSIS  and decoding Mayan language.

Romani people (Gypsies or Gipsies)
The Romani people[46][47], Roma people[48][49][50] or Romany people are an ethnic group with origins in South Asia.[51][52] The Romani people are a widely dispersed ethnic group, with the largest concentrated populations in Europe and the Americas.[53][54] They are often referred to as Gypsies or Gipsies. 
The absence of a written history has meant that the origin and early history of the Roma people was long an enigma. As early as 200 years ago, cultural scholars hypothesised an Indian origin of the Roma based on linguistic evidence[83]. Genetic information confirms this.
Although the Nazis claimed that the Gypsies were not Aryan,[citation needed] some members of the Gypsy Lore Society (established in 1888 in England) claimed that the Gypsies were the most ancient Aryans and “sought to protect them from mixing with non-Gypsy elements and from modernization…”.[84]

Linguistic evidence

Until the mid to late eighteenth century, theories of the origin of the Roma were mostly speculative. Then in 1782, Johann Christian Christoph Rüdiger published his research that pointed out the relationship between the Romani language and Hindustani.[85] Subsequent work supported the hypothesis that Romani shared a common origin with the Indo-Aryan languages of Northern India,[86] with Romani grouping most closely with Sinhalese in a recent study.[87]
The majority of historians accepted this as evidence of an Indian origin for the Roma, but some maintained that the Roma acquired the language through contact with Indian merchants.[88]

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Genetic evidence Haplogroup H (Y-DNA)


In human genetics, Haplogroup H (M69) is a Y-chromosome haplogroup.

This haplogroup is found at a high frequency in India and Sri Lanka. It is generally rare outside of the Indian subcontinent but is common among the Roma people, particularly the H-M82 subgroup.
Very low frequencies of the Haplogroup H are found among populations of Pakistan compared to the frequency of this haplogroup among Indian populations. A recent study of Y-chromosome variation among populations of Pakistan found Haplogroup H1-M52 Y-chromosomes in only 2.5% of a sample of the general Pakistani population (16 out of 638 individuals), and this haplogroup was also found at similar frequencies among ethnic Pashtuns (4/96 or 4.2%) and Burusho (4/97 or 4.1%). Surprisingly, Haplogroup H1-M52 was found at a much higher frequency among this study’s sample of Kalash (9/44 or 20.5%) (Firasat et al. 2007).
Haplogroup H has been found very rarely outside of the Roma and populations of the Indian subcontinent, including approximately 6% (1 out of 17 individuals) of a sample of Kurds from Turkmenistan, 4% (2/53) of Iranians from Samarkand, 2% (1/56) of Uzbeks from Bukhara, 3% (2/70) of Uzbeks from Khorezm, 2% (1/63) of Uzbeks from the Fergana Valley, 4% (2/45) of Uzbeks from Samarkand, 12.5% (2/16) of Tajiks from Dushanbe, 2% (1/41) of Uyghurs from Kazakhstan (Wells et al. 2001), 2% (1/50) of Ukrainians, and 5% (1/20) of Syrians.[1] The subclade H1a-M82 has also been found in 2.56% (3/117) of a sample of the population of southern Iran (Regueiro et al. 2006). Some instances of haplogroup H have also been found among populations of the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula, including 2.4% (4/164) haplogroup H*(xH1-M52) and 1.8% (3/164) haplogroup H1a-M82 in Oman and 1.4% (1/72) H1a-M82 in Qatar (Cadenas et al. 2007).
Haplogroup M (mtDNA)
In human genetics, Haplogroup M is a human mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroup.(ONLY DERIVED FROM MATERNAL GENES maternal mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroup)

An enormous haplogroup spanning many continents, the macro-haplogroup M is a branch of the haplogroup L3. It is the single most common mtDNA haplogroup in Asia,[2] and is ubiquitous in India[3] where it represents about 60% of maternal lineages.[4]
M is believed to have originated in Asia[1] some 60,000 to 75,000 years before present:

The deep roots of M phylogeny clearly establish the antiquity of Indian lineages, especially M2, as compared to Ethiopian M1 lineage and hence, support an Asian origin of M macrohaplogroup.[4]

Among the descendants of M are C, D, E, G, Q, and Z, with Z and G being observed in North Eurasian populations, C and D being shared between North Eurasian and Native American populations, E being observed in Southeast Asian populations, and Q being observed in Melanesian populations. The lineages M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M18 and M25 are exclusive to India, with M2 reported to be the oldest lineage on the Indian sub-continent.[5] M7 and M8 are widespread Eastern Eurasian lineages.
Due to its great age, haplogroup M is an mtDNA lineage which does not correspond well to present-day ethnic groups, as it spans Siberian, Native American, East Asian, Southeast Asian, Central Asian, South Asian, Melanesian as well as Egyptian, Ethiopian, Somali, European, and various Middle Eastern populations in lesser frequency.

Further evidence for the Indian origin of the Roma came in the late 1990s when it was discovered that Roma populations carried large frequencies of particular Y chromosomes (inherited paternally) and mitochondrial DNA (inherited maternally) that otherwise exist only in populations from South Asia.
47.3% of Roma men carry Y chromosomes of haplogroup H-M82 which is rare outside of the Indian subcontinent.[89] Mitochondrial haplogroup M, most common in Indian subjects and rare outside Southern Asia, accounts for nearly 30% of Roma people.[89] A more detailed study of Polish Roma shows this to be of the M5 lineage, which is specific to India[90] Moreover, a form of the inherited disorder congenital myasthenia is found in Romani subjects. This form of the disorder, caused by the 1267delG mutation, is otherwise only known in subjects of Indian ancestry. This is considered to be the best evidence of the Indian ancestry of the Romanies.[91]
The Roma have been described as “a conglomerate of genetically isolated founder populations”,[92] while a number of common Mendelian disorders among Romanies from all over Europe indicates “a common origin and founder effect”.[92] See also this table: [93]
A study from 2001 by Gresham et al. suggests “a limited number of related founders, compatible with a small group of migrants splitting from a distinct caste or tribal group”.[94] Also the study pointed out that “genetic drift and different levels and sources of admixture, appear to have played a role in the subsequent differentiation of populations”.[94] The same study found that “a single lineage … found across Romani populations, accounts for almost one-third of Romani males. A similar preservation of a highly resolved male lineage has been reported elsewhere only for Jewish priests”.[94] See also the Cohen Modal Haplotype.
A 2004 study by Morar et al. concluded that the Roma are “a founder population of common origins that has subsequently split into multiple socially divergent and geographically dispersed Gypsy groups”.[91] The same study revealed that this population “was founded approximately 32–40 generations ago, with secondary and tertiary founder events occurring approximately 16–25 generations ago”.[91]

Forwarded With Comments from: Dr. BHUDIA : Science Group Of INDIA. 
President:’Kutch Science Foundation’.
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